
In someone's comment stream, I do not remember whose, I was accused (by name) of telling poets that they cannot talk about epiphanies. This is a misrepresentation, but not a gross one. Epiphany, among experimentalists, has gotten quite a bad name, and though I have not made such an all-encompassing gesture as I have been accused of, the relationship between post-avant and epiphany will need to be looked into to avoid further confusion. Mainstream poets have a way of using epiphany to create a specific type of effect- usually, as a way of taking a run-of-the-mill poem and universalizing it. The standard move is to take a poem based on the first person singular, the "I," and attempting, by force, to make it speak for "us." It is like a stranger forcing a hug, and has become so formulaic as to be laughable (at least for those of us on this side of the fence.) Yet "epiphany," as such, does not necessarily mean this, and has a broader signification, one that can, in fact, be useful in the development of post-avant and the discourses around it. What constitutes a post-avant epiphany? I would say that the best way post-avant could incorporate epiphany would be as a realization of terror or irony, a sort of negative epiphany. Another possibility would be epiphany as a kind of sexual and/or affective climax, that brings together the complex strains of an imaginatively edgy poem. The third possibility would be epiphany as a revelation of Otherness, an "I" moving towards a "You," rather than trying to become a "we." All these formulations would take post-avant epiphany away from the significations it has in the context of mainstream poetry. Once this has been established, it will become clear that post-avant is capacious enough to encompass its own brand and manner of epiphany, and that no one need complain that I am trying to stop them from expressing the epiphanic in poems. "Epiphany" is a kind of misnomer; what experimentalists really reject out of hand is universalized epiphany. To further illustrate these points, I will present two poems, to demonstrate how these two different types of epiphany function, what the differences are and how they are expressed.
I have alluded, in an earlier post, to William Stafford's Traveling Through the Dark, which has become an archetypal mainstream American poem. It is popular enough for none less than Rae Armantrout to publicly satirize it. For those who may be wondering what Ron Silliman means when he speaks of Quietude, look no further. Look, especially, at the way epiphany is expressed in the final two lines:
Traveling through the dark I found a deer
dead on the edge of the Wilson River road.
It is usually best to roll them into the canyon:
that road is narrow; to swerve might make more dead.
By glow of the tail-light I stumbled back of the car
and stood by the heap, a doe, a recent killing;
she had stiffened already, almost cold.
I dragged her off; she was large in the belly.
My fingers touching her side brought me the reason-
her side was warm; her fawn lay there waiting,
alive, still, never to be born.
Beside that mountain road I hesitated.
The car aimed ahead its lowered parking lights;
under the hood purred the steady engine.
I stood in the glare of the warm exhaust turning red;
around our group I could hear the wilderness listen.
I thought hard for us all- my only swerving-,
then pushed her over the edge into the river.
The funniest thing about this poem for me is that it could almost be post-avant. It has many elements that would align it with post-avant, as I have defined it- darkness, death, solitude, rough edges. The problem is all in the penultimate line- when Stafford says he thought hard for us all, we know we are being bombarded (out of nowhere, in this context), with heavy-duty schmaltz, with ersatz profundity and portentous meaning. Yes, William, all of us are going to die, and it is terrible. It is necessary for you to stand on this edge of life and death and make sure that everyone is accounted for. Considering how (nearly) post-avant the rest of the poem is, the handling of the epiphanic here is incredibly clumsy, like it has been pasted in. What could have happened in this line other than a rote, clumsy, universalizing epiphany? What if Frank Booth from Blue Velvet showed up and they huffed nitrous together? Or Aaron Belz could show up in his nylon jacket or Todd Swift's protagonist stalking his school-girl. Anything at all would have been better than this, because the cheesiness of the line (for me, at least) decimates the rest of the poem. The echoes of Robert Frost (who, believe it or not, has his own post-avant streak), the vividness of the scene sketched, the immediacy of the language- the epiphanic moment here sends it all down the tubes. Yet mainstream poets pull moves like this over and over again, simply because they believe that this is the way poems have to be written. If mainstream poets in America are the "Academy Poets," post-avantists are certainly the "Impressionists," not because we write in an impressionistic way, but simply because we are cutting against the grain of established tradition, the way that the Language poets did before us. This particular tradition, not of epiphany but of universalized epiphany, of "I" speaking for "us," is one that needs to be thrown overboard, and replaced with new possibilities around this word.
To illustrate this new manner and form of epiphany, I would like to bring in a poem by a younger Australian poet, David Prater. This poem, A Veteran of the Club Scene, is from his book, We Will Disappear:
panic on the streets of south
yarra geez they shut us down
when i'm peaking it's a rip-off
shit's been cut with something
maybe brain juices? not mine
got the tip-off said get rid of
'em ages ago i loved to dance
though don't seem to have the
energy anymore i'm still here
propping up a legendary club
foot & nose patches stop the
bleeding bring on peace man
& another buggered recovery
whatever that means i forgot
my own name monday what a
bore youse young freaks just
don't understand we all need
a little helping hand to the
hot water dispensers if only
they'd mix it with cordial ah
those good old halcyon nites
hiya girls! ok sure hop in its
back to mine just let me say
you are you are a wonderful
repeat wonderful person yeah
I think urban and rural settings are equally efficacious as back-drops for post-avant poems. Here, we have the urban substituted for Stafford's rural dark. It is also worth noting that the opening line of the poem ("panic on the streets of...") is taken from a song by The Smiths, and that this demonstrates the polyglot quality that good post-avant poetry has. This poem is thoroughly edgy- the intimations of drug abuse and the club setting make it a somewhat queasy ride. What is most important to this particular discussion are the moves Prater pulls in the final four lines. It can certainly be taken as a realization of irony. The ostensible scenario is simple- guy goes to a club, picks up some girls and takes them home. However, the manner in which Prater presents this data raises unanswered questions not dissimilar to the ones that Todd Swift's poems raised. The repetition of lines ("you are you are a wonderful/ repeat wonderful person") could be interpreted as deliberately smarmy and/or ironic; this is the narrator expressing contempt for girls he is about to (we assume) hook up with, or try to hook up with. Yet, the lines are presented with a straight face; Prater could be in earnest, too. It is difficult to tell. Yet it is certainly epiphanic, cutting through the confused muddle of the rest of the poem and giving it focus, direction, and movement. This is an epiphany with an edge, and that edge is expressed in deliberate ambiguity. The reader has to decide for him or herself whether Prater is being flip or whether he is expressing disgust or contempt. In this moment, what Prater must do becomes clear; that is the "what"; it is the "why" that becomes the sticking point. He could be staving off nudges from his own conscience; we do not know. But compare Prater's epiphany with Stafford's, which holds absolutely no ambiguity and no edge. To bring the thing roundabout, I would never say that poets cannot talk about epiphanies. I would say this: if you are interested in post-avant, speak truthfully about yourself, and do not deign to speak for anyone else. That is Stafford's key crime (and Prater's strength,) what turns his epiphany into an aesthetic nightmare.

15 comments:
Adam,
I think you over-read the "us all" that Stafford was talking about. I think he just meant himself, the doe, and the fawn. Maybe there's an intimation of something larger, but that isn't the main reason that the Stafford poem is awful.
When you compare it to the Prater poem, you're comparing apples and candied yams. And of course, yeah, Stafford's language is terribly boring. But that's a symptom, a style, a hat---not the deeper reason the poem sucks.
The thing that is horrible about this poem is that he presents it as an ephiphanic (is that really a word) mystical experience, a life-altering moment, the piss-yellow diverging paths in the woods that happen once or twice in a lifetime. But in fact it's a nice story to tell at a party or to present to your 9th grade ethics class for discussion. It's a good example of the quietist sleight-of- hand. It's not that he tries to speak for everyone---it's that he doesn't really wrestle with, delve into, question, play with, explore, say, or do, anything. Nothing happens. Or, the only thing that happens is that the reader/listener of the poem is fed some calming pap. When we read this poem, we're supposed to "just know" that we're in the presence of a priestly prophet poet, and NOT THINK ABOUT ANYTHING either. We're to just listen to the hush. THAT's what I think quietude is---that kind of hush. This poem of Stafford's is supposedly a poem of witness, of reckoning, but what it really is, is a trick that attempts to function as a hand-washing, for the poet who wrote it, and for anyone who will buy it.
All good points, well taken. But I do think the penultimate line is what tips the lines of the poem into absurdity.
Adam
i pretty much read an article exacly like this. Stafford seems to be the punching bag for the poets who (rightly) oppose the experiential or the epiphanic formulas.
i think you are too exited about the term "post-avant" because you are applying it to everything. you have to remember the historical avant in relation to the post-avant. or you can just take a term and run with it if you want.
Ry,
That is inaccurate. I am not applying it to "everything" but I do believe it to be a widely applicable term, where certain kinds of art are concerned.
Adm
Words mean things, or so I hear. I'm just tryin' to make sense of yours. (I'm a little thick.) I read through these post-avant posts more than once tryin' to draw a picture of this "post-avant" thing. I wouldn't say I thought post-avant doesn't allow epiphany if you had not written post-avant does not allow epiphany. I guess you're free to redefine ephiphany, if that's what it takes. Who's gonna stop you? Heh. Maybe we should redefine all the words that start wtih E, just for kicks. Anyway, for reference, I would direct you to your posts of June 5, 6, 15, and 18. Perhaps you'll better understand my confusion.
Here's your June 15 statement: Like Hirst's piece, poetry should be able to act on the intellect and the body at the same time. Intellectual edges have to do with making an audience think about the central issues of post-avant- death, the unsettling, the disturbing, affect, love, relationships, and not merely language-being-language, language-qua-language, and language performing self-absorbed curlicues. Or, of course, epiphany.
Here's your June 18th statement: How much freedom do poets see in the discourse I am developing? The conditions I have set forth create a scenario in which only a few things are "off-limits": epiphany, language-qua-language.
Your June 5 and 6 statements equate epiphany with sentiment--as anything with sentiment, or that relies on sentiment.
Now I guess I'll go read the rest of this post while I have a few brain cells left. ::wink:: Have a nice day.
Agnes,
That's true. It's my fault for not being more specific about epiphany. To have said "universalizing epiphanies" over and over again would have been a little top-heavy, but would also have been more accurate and would have created less confusion. My apologies.
Adam
Adam,
and I mean nothing bad or anything like that. But it seems as if you are taking the term "post-avant" as if it is your sole property and not engaging anyone else's idea of it (such as Burger, even Silliman, or anyone, perhaps even myself who sees post-avant in a slightly more narrowed version than what you have presented although I do generally know what you are getting at). But you are talking about "post-avant" as if it belongs to you as the authority on it. Is that unfair to say?
Anyway, thanks for the posts. Although this one curiously mirrors a critical essay I read on Chax.org journal a week ago or so.
see here: http://chax.org/eoagh/issuefour/nathansonscalapino.html
Ry,
Yes, it is unfair to say. As far as I know, until this point post-avant has not been specifically defined. If you can point me to a specific definition, I would be happy to engage/possibly incorporate it. And acknowledge the source.
I resent the insinuation that I am copping someone else's shit. I do not read Chax.org and have never seen the essay in question. And there is nothing "curious" about that.
Adam
Ok, here are my readings of the 'ephiphanic' moments in the two poems...
When Stafford writes 'I thought hard for us all', 'us all' can be taken as 'all of us who were present' (the 'I' of the poem, the doe, the fawn) - thereby linking back to 'our group' in the previous line. But I agree that it can also be read as a universalising gesture, where the 'us' functions like that in, say, the Lord's Prayer. Indeed, 'I thought hard for us all' could almost be 'I prayed for us all'.
In the Prater poem (one of my favourites from 'We Will Disappear'), I take the closing lines and their repetition as a reference to the 'chemically-induced epiphany' experienced under the influence of MDMA. This was/is one of the 'drugs of choice' in the milieu of this poem. The empathogenic properties of the drug are known to induce impassioned declarations of love, friendship, etc - to the point of cliche. Certainly there's irony in these closing lines. I can see your angle too (the guy's contempt for the girls), but that's not how I initially read it.
Stu,
Interesting reading. Thanks.
Adam
I do also get the sense of 'post-avant' being applied very liberally to a hugely diverse range of poetry. It reminds a bit of [British cultural reference warning] the Indian father in Goodness Gracious Me who claims that everything is Indian ('Shakespeare? Indian!').
That said, I don't think this is a problem, because as Adam says, this is an experiment. And I think it's important that terms such as 'post-avant' are tested against their own limits.
I must confess that I had assumed (and I'm writing from a UK angle here) that 'post-avant' was merely a convenient rebranding of 'avant-garde', rather than - as Adam seems to be suggesting/promoting - a genuinely *new* phenomeon that cross the mainstream/avant divide.
Also - having read the piece on Todd Swift, I wonder what Adam makes of Todd's 'fusion' poetry, much promoted in the 90s (?), and whether he sees any correspondence between 'fusion' and 'post-avant'?
Thanks!
Tom,
I know that Todd did a lot of spoken word stuff in the 90s. Have not seen too much of it. I would say that most spoken word stuff I have heard lacks the imagination that Todd's later stuff has, though the edge and the affect are there.
Adam
You may be interested in this. I think the issues echo (in far better articulated and argued form) many of those that i have taken. And he mentions you by name.
http://metaschit.blogspot.com/2009/07/disjunction-andor-displacement-post.html
I share many of the anxieties with regard to said project.
Addenda - That's RY's blog. And I do (as I have in the past) second his statement about your lack of historical and cantemporary engagement. (though I don't want to be colored by any bitterness regarding accusations of plagiarism or the like). There are several posts on Ron's blog that define it in terms of his use, or it is used in very illuminating context - see, for example, this one:
http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/04/note-that-appeared-in-my-comments.html
or his recent one on the flarf/conceptual writing feature in Poetry.
If you have adressed any of these I apologise, and would like to read.
Hi Adam. I just came across this post via Silliman's blog. I guess my concern about your post is how you distinguish "post-avant": poems that are edgy and obsessed with death and drugs, etc. It sounds a little like the executive on the Simpsons telling the artists to make their new character Poochie more "in your face." Is it merely subject matter that makes a poem "post-avant"?
As for Stafford's poem, I'm not a huge fan of it, but does it warrant the abuse? Those who have identified the "us" as the speaker and the deer and its unborn doe(and maybe the wilderness) have a good case, but even if we read it as the larger, universal "us," so what? The speaker's telling us what _he_ thought. You can say he should have thought something else, or not mentioned what he did think, but who can take to task a poet's compositional choices? The editors and readers who have championed this poem (which is a fiction, as all poetry is) are to blame, not Stafford and not the poem. Any person who writes anything and publishes it presupposes, even if tinily, an audience larger than herself, and this presupposition could be just as easily subjected to the criticism leveled at Stafford and his use of the inclusive pronoun. In Jordan Davis's recent Nation piece, he mentions C.S. Lewis's _An Experiment in Criticism_, which makes the case for generous reading. It's a good book, mainly b/c it makes the case for generous reading.
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